水草情迷

我同意租人地方或買人地方要遵守返那裡的條件, 等於到這裡要遵守super兄的版規 .
我有個想法是條例一樣可以立刻實行, 但亦可以附帶一些條件讓人去解決問題. 你唔可以自己解決問題而唔給與別人時間去解決的. 在社會上是要互相體諒及幫助的麻. 那不是雙方都有利嗎? 可以解決問題而大家都認同.

ok ok明晒，係因為公契寫了不可養寵物 , 所以米係公屋養寵物係錯low....就算大家都是三粒星的香港人，都會那樣的不平等。我明wow, ....完來我表達能力真係甘底...

No Faith:

不能不佩服您在此的辨証能力以及對公共事務的如此熟悉!仿如你是政府派來安撫及唱反調似的, 但兩日來拜讀您的文章, 除左看到您那份執著與理據以外, 最能令小弟稱心滿意的就是你也認同burtus兄所說的(如下), 假若您有意思的話, 以您的高才闊辨能力、對政府事務的熟悉程度及處處隱露出嚴從法紀但又好想向政府表示不滿態度可知, 是次的遊行若能可以領導大家向政府提出抗議, 以及增取或改善屋契條文的話, 真是萬民之福, 令人永記於心呀!
No Faith, 你知道嗎, 您是最佳人選呀!

如果只執於法例的字面意思，而忽略了背後的意義，盲目遵守一些不合情理的法例，那才是不經思考，人說你道，沒有自主和未能明辨是非的人。



大家都希望您能站出來, 為一些不合理的條文作出合理與理性的抗辨呀!

我可以用更肯定的答案答你
水管維修原本房署是會負責的，就連水盤有什麼問題，房署也會維修的。就算水渠塞了，也是找房署整的。
因為我都曾經比佢整過而唔收錢
但我住了大約4年後，房署對任何野都不再負責，就算天花板漏水都唔理你。所有野都要由居住者比錢整。
我不是交雙倍租
而係有2個單位
我全家收入只有10000多元
但交租4000
佔總收入之40%
但房署一直唔出聲，一直收多租
如果唔係2年前有新聞報，我真係完全唔知有條咁既例

No Faith,
有錢唔係大晒! 住私人樓就係人, 私人樓0既狗就有"狗權"可言, 可以為所欲為; 住公屋0既就連爭取權利的資格都沒有嗎? 講立法, 政府都係成日改, 叫人無所適從! 為sar, 怕污糟, 不如禁止全港市民養寵物, 兼且要隨地拋垃圾的人判死刑, 那麼香港一定乾淨! 不要只針對公屋住戶, 就正如"No Faith"一樣, 你在此高談闊論,我們都一樣包容你!! 我建議你將你的高見在另一些狗網或在718遊行時發表, 此處並無你發揮0既空間! 或許這地球不太適合你, 你都要為自己想一想!! 你真係人如其名!!!

TO :NO FAITH
法律係人定的,唔代表唔可以修改.目的都係以市民利益為依歸.
單以租約言明不可養寵物以言,一刀切,的確如此.但執法的寬度對社會的平衡就是問題所在。有屋村就有小販,正如電腦普及就有盜版.有買魚的才會有賣的。你就沒有正面回答我你所用既電腦程式有無盜版。單說法治,誰都懂.但全守法的包括你都未能做到。針對問題是,市民對這收窄了的寬度,矯枉過正的執法要表示不滿.
1. 屋村的人就沒有權利多養一缸魚,這是私人樓的人才有的專利嗎?
2. 一缸魚以上又會導致咩問題致違例?
當大家有不滿或疑問時,當然要提出。我覺得同跳唔跳出黎諗野無關係.我地唔係盲目去順從。人治?法治?現在特首是人治多於法治. 50萬人上街是為了換一個用法得宜,帶領香港走出谷底的政府.

Dear all fish-friends,

I think our discussion is about 2 questions:- 1. Whether we should respect the tenancy contract with Housing Authority (H.A.)? 2. Whether we think the regulations under the contract is correct?

About question one- we are living in a civililized place-Hong Kong and most of the citizens law and order. I agree with No Faith that everybody should know a tenant of public housing estate should not keep dogs. Those who keeps dog should know they are intending to break the regulations (because they have already known that their action are wrong).

About question two- I guess when H.A. drew up the regulations about keeping dog, HA had considered the interest of most tenants, that keeping dogs would cause enormous disturbance to them (of course not to the dog keeper) and the environment. It may be because there is no way a dog be kept inside an apartment (it is inhumane for one who restaints a dog inside his home instead of taking it out of home to get in touch with the environment/breathe in fresh air-the dog-keepers should know). Of course the dog-keepers tend to think dogs are lovely/the best friend of man. I guess most of the tenant of public housing who are not dog-keeper did not share the same view and they would rather choose to keep the distance from dogs, expecially some children who are 'smaller' than some big-size dogs. Supposed you are inside a lift and somebody takes his dog(s) inside, I bet you have no way to escape.

So those dog-keepers of public housing estate please respect the regulations and be considerate to others.

By the way, I am pleased to know that there are quite lots of fish-friends (for example No Faith) share similar views with me.

To No Faith:

See! 又嚟料啦...

After watching all the message, I don't think it's a health discussion.
Both sides just stand on their side and defend. But they are talking different things.
- One is discussing whether the rule is reasonable? keeping more than one tanks is acceptable?
- The other side is whether we need to undertake a contract.

如果一下只要執行, d 貓貓狗狗會去邊? 去日本? 去歐洲定去做大陸貓呢~! 咪有係可能去做流浪貓狗,咁到時點? 呢次會唔會冇比時間人呢~!
定係到時可以又多好多就業機會,請一班人去捉流浪貓狗~!

CF & No Faith,
已經好好架, 講到第三板先來料, 証明有進步!

禁狗禁貓我好贊同, 一開始你入住公屋已講到明。
偷養俾人捉到就你衰左, 但係而家有d公屋屋村好似擺正牌咁自出自入...
正如私家樓都有D業主講明禁狗禁貓。
如果發現條文有過時、不合理...等
首先應有人動議去提出修改......去到遊行上街, 中間好似跳了許多步。

至於給予時間去住戶解決問題...
我想好似有點"俾就人情、唔俾就道理"呢D Feel

有兩點就唔係好清楚:
1) 養魚是否在租約已講明一缸, 還是現在先立例?
2) 一缸的定義是什麼?
一缸淨水草缸=一缸魚缸嗎?
一個咸水缸有沙缸有醫生缸, 是三缸、兩缸 or 一缸?
一個鯛缸, 生了一堆bb, 分開用個盤養, 是一缸 or 兩缸?
好多好多唔同例子...點分呢?

將成間屋所有門口位密封住,再倒滿水,都只不過係一缸.....

"no faith" why u change a name "new order"?
i believe no faith = new order!


I 'm fans of new order too.............i love the song "true faith"!!!

遊行完, 又話10月1號先實行la wor...

如果最後都係無修訂到...仍然只可以養一缸魚...
咁你地會點搞其他缸呢?