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大家好,

新手一個, 琴晚用個可樂膠樽想 diy co2, 加左大約 2/5 咁多糖, 2 teaspoon 既 "依士粉", 但等左成晚都係冇 co2 出 .... 係吾係太凍既關係?

水我加到 3/5 咁上下, 係暖水黎既, 冇特別去攪去, 尤得 d 糖自己熔

請問我有冇做錯野?


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你睇下個樽有冇漏氣


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未閱讀文章發表於 : 2010-03-10 10:54 
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應該冇漏氣, 其實可以知樣測試?

我打開個樽, 發現好大陣酒味, 會吾會有問題?

仲有原來我吾記得用水開溶 d yeast 先倒入去 ..... 唉, 可能就係咁哀左


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未閱讀文章發表於 : 2010-03-10 10:59 
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DIY 係有酒精味,正常的
唔開水都得,,開左個面唔會好似你咁爆開晒 lor
你成枝放入水睇下有冇氣泡出, or 個樽有冇充晒氣好硬咁 ?


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未閱讀文章發表於 : 2010-03-10 11:20 
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"個樽有冇充晒氣好硬咁" <-- 就係冇 ...

"成枝放入水" <-- 成技?? 即係吾用氣喉??? 得吾得架, 入面 d 泡會吾會沖入我個缸度??

其實點樣可以知道佢有冇漏氣 ?


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未閱讀文章發表於 : 2010-03-10 11:22 
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唔係放入魚缸 ar ...
係放入去盆,,,因為要知道你D接口位有冇漏氣 ar
你放左成晚都唔硬 ? 谷唔到氣 ?


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未閱讀文章發表於 : 2010-03-10 12:09 
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"你放左成晚都唔硬" <-- 係 ... 硬吾到, 超慘 :cry:

諗番轉頭, 應該係我放左太多 yeast, 我見佢冇料到又加 d, 加加埋埋都有 304 teaspoon .....


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未閱讀文章發表於 : 2010-03-10 12:12 
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咁可能係你D糖唔溶啦,多yeast 係無問題的,,最多都係爆得太多可能衝入細代器


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未閱讀文章發表於 : 2010-03-10 12:37 
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但之前見有 d 人話吾使專登去攪溶 d 糖, 而家咁凍真係吾容易溶喎 ...


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仲有, 個樽如果放底過個缸, 得吾得架? 使吾使同個缸同一 level?


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未閱讀文章發表於 : 2010-03-10 12:42 
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我就不嬲用個盆開水溶晒D糖先倒番入去個樽度
之後就等個零鐘就出氣啦,,都幾好力,,一般細代都推得出
maybe u try again or 倒一半水開D熱水入去 lor
我都係用沖涼熱水爐D水之後 choose 60'C 黎溶 jar ma


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1. 我都幾肯定係你個樽/喉漏氣 (有酒精味即係yeast已正在發酵/運作)
2. 落咁多yeast,唔洗5分鐘就會勁出氣,然後1個鐘就玩完 :ugeek:
3. 我會用熱水先溶一溶D糖,再溝室溫水到大概30-35C先至落yeast(太熱yeast會死), yeast唔洗預先用水開
4. 如果正確DIY,係可以將個樽放底過個缸的

你其實用咩細化器? 如你想知佢有冇製造緊co2好簡單,除左個細化,將喉放落水,睇下有冇氣出.
如有,但一加番個細化器,等半日都冇出,多數係其中一部份漏氣,自己fix左佢先.

另外,個份量你嚮邊搵架? 糖/水/yeast既份量係幾多?

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未閱讀文章發表於 : 2010-03-10 14:57 
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但佢話個樽唔硬,,,可能真係唸兩日凍啦..所以D Co2 形成得慢所以唔夠力


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大家好,

新手一個, 琴晚用個可樂膠樽想 diy co2, 加左大約 2/5 咁多糖, 2 teaspoon 既 "依士粉", 但等左成晚都係冇 co2 出 .... 係吾係太凍既關係?

水我加到 3/5 咁上下, 係暖水黎既, 冇特別去攪去, 尤得 d 糖自己熔

請問我有冇做錯野?

There are several things that you could check:
1. Gas leak at connection between air line & bottle cap
    - Suggest you empty the contents and submerge the entire setup into a sink of water.
    - Squeeze the bottle underwater and you should expect to see only bubbles coming out of the air line. Otherwise, you have found the point of leakage.
    - Fix this... somehow. :-)
2. Air line obstructed
    - Your pic showed that yeast the had fermented quite a lot; i.e. too much yeast added.
    - Possible that some of the fermented mixture got pushed into the air line, causing obstruction. This is common (at least for me when I first started DIY-CO2).
    - Clean the insides of the airline properly.
As to your mixture, I would like to point out that the sugar & yeast proportions seem too high vs. the small bottle (1L?) you are using.
    - Too much sugar can stress out the yeast and it would produce less CO2 than is optimal.
    - Too much yeast would lead to strong initial burst of CO2 + lots of fermented mixtures; also speed up production of alcohol which would eventually shut down the entire solution.
Here's what I use: 2L bottle, 2 cups (about 400cc) sugar, 1/2 tea spoon yeast, access to hot & warm water.
    a. Rinse out the bottle with hot water (but not too hot that bottle deforms). Fill to about 3/4 full with warm water (37-40C). I simply estimate this temperature by making sure it feels slightly warm to the skin.
    b. Pour out about 1/2 cup of water into a bowl.
    c. Add 1/2 tsp yeast to bowl; 2-3 small pinches of sugar; stir vigorously to create some foam and the mixture should smell nice and sweet. Set aside for about 10 mins.
    - This is what people call re-activating the yeast because your yeast was probably instant dried yeast that needs to be awaken.
    d. Meanwhile, add the 2 cups of sugar into bottle of water. Shake the sugar solution a bit to dissolve some of the sugar.
    e. Now add the bowl of yeast to the sugar solution and mix well.
    f. Leave overnight, uncapped, in your sink or a bowl.
    - This allows CO2 production to peak and then stabilize. Any excess ferment mixture would be thrown up from the bottle but it would easy to clean up since it's not connected to air line or the aquarium.
    g. Cap with air line and connect to your aquarium.
    - You won't see bubbles right away because pressure needs to build up first in the bottle. This can take anywhere from 30 mins to 1/2 day depending on the mixture's temperature & what sort of diffuser you attach at the other end.
Although it takes some time to get CO2 going, I have found this formula to be long-lasting: about 2-3 weeks depending on whether I shake the bottle from time to time.

Sorry about the length of this reply. I know it's very frustrating to DIY in the beginning but once you get the right steps it's really easy. I hope the above would help you in some way.
http://www.uniquaria.com/index.php/arti ... 13-diy-co2


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終於出到 co2 喇 !!!!!!!!!! 吾該哂咁多位 !!!!!!

但問題又黎, 我用木筷子做細化, 但要放o係魚岳日間位置先有 co2 出, 當我放低 d 既時候, 佢又吾出 co2 ..... 攪到d co2 停o係水度既時間好短, 有冇人知點解會咁??


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